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Discussion in 'Longboard Surf Buy/Sell/Trade' started by Iceberg, Mar 19, 2019.
Well Subaru’s are neither rare or collectors items so you may have overpaid.
I'm not sure about that Dave...
Well now there’s the needle in the haystack like this twinzer. Goes back to my earlier statement, there is an ass for every seat.
I don't get the prices for these Skips. I can buy a few killer boards from some insane shapers for the price of his beaters. People need to stop worrying about being in the cool kids club.
I think we had a long thread about the Skip Frye ‘cult’. Some us here are in, others not so much. The Surfers Journal article a year ago or so gave some insight and great pics. I’m one who doesn’t quite get it, not so much about the man and his involvement but more about there being many other shapers who produced boards much more refined. Curran, Diffenderfer, Edwards, Brewer. Have to admit I haven’t seen, felt, or surfed many but my eyes have me questioning their beauty or exceptional craftsmanship. No clue about the rideability.
Also, early Japanese built import car prices are on a dramatic rise. Some were much more advanced and of higher build quality than US covered wagons (muscle aside) being screwed together during the same era.
i'll "get it" when some buffoon posts one covered in dirt that belonged to his half brother's sister's former college roommate that's been sitting in a shack for the past seventeen years for $75.
I think there are a TON of folks who 100% agree with you on all of your very very valid points.
That said, I'm of the party of thought who feels as though his prices are totally justified, for many reasons. Most board-builders themselves feel as though he's one of the GOATs and his influence on what surfing has become is on-par with that of McTavish, Nat Young, Lopez and GG. For that same reason, Steve Lis and Lopez fetch astronomical prices for their boards as well. Skip admits to admiring Edwards as one of his idols, but PE's boards aren't nearly as refined or complex as Skips. Neither are Brewers (or GL's for that matter). If you compared them side-by-side you'd see the differences in the complexity of the bottom contours and how organically the rails are tucked from tail up to nose.
I don't think the issue is that Skip's boards are necessarily too expensive. I think the issue is that other talented and influential shapers (Gene C, Andreini, Jundo, many others who all deserve to be fetching similar prices to what Skip is fetching) are making less than a mechanic or plumber if you break down their prices into an hourly wage. This is why Gene stopped Cooperfish. He admitted to nearly breaking even on many of his boards because his prices were too low (at nearly $2k/board).
Having said all of that, I think the overly inflated "flippers" market for Fryes is NUTS. People buying them used for $1500 (fair) and flipping them for $3800 is friggin' NUTS. A friend of mine actually mentioned this to Skip and he HIMSELF thought it was crazy.
One last word from the poster (me) who used that terrible word "cult" and started that sheetstorm (is that worse than being tagged a "socialist" HA!). You want to pay $3 grand for a brown turd that I would not even pull out of a dumpster? Fine.
I'll pay a grand for 2 great travel boards and fly off to surf some perfect waves in an exotic location.
Now doesn't that make more sense? Kind of like socialism does.