Yeah and he knows a heck of a lot about surfboard design and what truly works . He really does..Robert is a good shaper no doubt about it. He used to shape with Rich Harbour before starting his own shop. He sold me my 9'10" 3 stringer Jacobs back in Nov 1966. He is definitely a nice person. Hap Jacobs still held him in high regards many years after he closed up his shop.