I've been really enjoying some of the older video of involvement style surfing. Not pure pigs or popcicle stick outlines but the inbetween outlines where there's still curves/wide point is back. Noserides only happen toght in the pocket. Who out there makes these? Minus the sam, which has been beat to death in other threads. Really liked the looks of the harbor evolver and mr. Hilbers shapes. Post up your involvement board porn,videos, and anything interesting "involvement".