surf1ng
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Ha - who knew!
CJ Nelson Outlier reviews?
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Meanwhile those haneleia side bites! Had a couple more surfs and I am not saying I am shredding WSL style BUT they have certainly added some performance to the choad. It's been pretty small and clean the last two mornings chest high on take off tapering down to thigh high. Both backhand and forehand I did some nice roundhouse cutbacks and closeout reos. Two thumbs up thus far and my love affair with the choad has gone to a deeper plane.
Cuttlefish
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Update on the Hanalei FLX fin: I've been surfing the 7' Outlier with the Hanalei fins and slowly taking off length in the trailing arm of the centre fin
in 1/2" increments. Now have it where it has the requisite looseness/hold ratio that feels to be working well. Its been interesting feeling the changes underfoot with the changes to the fin. Love the Hanalei sides with the FCS Clique 8" centre in smaller waves. The Hanalei centre should give me the extra hold that is lacking with the FCS Clique when the waves get a bit larger which is not in the board's design brief but its fun to see how far one can push a board.
in 1/2" increments. Now have it where it has the requisite looseness/hold ratio that feels to be working well. Its been interesting feeling the changes underfoot with the changes to the fin. Love the Hanalei sides with the FCS Clique 8" centre in smaller waves. The Hanalei centre should give me the extra hold that is lacking with the FCS Clique when the waves get a bit larger which is not in the board's design brief but its fun to see how far one can push a board.
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heavymetalshop
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Now this just looks silly
Cuttlefish
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Definitely unusual. Silly...well could say the same about S wings, Greenough power blades, Dewey Weber hatchets, Squirrel fins, McCoy gull wings, Cheyne Horan star fins, asymmetrical fins and so on and so forth, I suppose but all have their die hard fans. The Hanalei fins are the best fin set up I've used in it to date in the 7' Outlier for waves in its top end and I have used a lot. Have you tried them? Solid Sth swell the last 2 days on the Northern beaches of my coast. Board was so much fun as usual and the fins worked great.
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RockyIsland
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Going to try the Alex KNost Flex fin in mine next few days. A nice run of glassy 2 to 3 ft beach breaks on the wayhttps://jamboards.com/threads/wtb-10-11-flex-fin.4914/
RockyIsland
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Had a stoker of a surf on the 7'0 Outlier 2 days ago.
It was a beautiful day with a supposed 2 ft swell running and as a I had to help my daughter move house I was in a hurry expected fun beaches and didn't check anything or even have a look out the back door. I was headed to the other end of the rock that has a beach perfectly aligned for this wind. Just took the 7'0 Outlier in the ute as I needed room for all my daughters stuff later.
Got to the beach and the beaches were closing out but the reef point was a solid 4 to 5 and going off with 2 guys out.
I used to work at this beach for 15 years as a ranger and surfed this reef point when ever it worked. It needs a king tide as its basically a set of 3 fingers of reef aligned along a 45 degree angle with deep channels between each finger of reef.I know this because at low tide I used to take high school kids on Rockpool rambles at low tide and know every inch of this reef.
It has a peaky chip in or white water reform take off then instantly goes fat as it runs over the first channel so you have to fade hard into the white wash tongue as it hits the middle finger of reef.
This section gets heavy and depending on the height of the tide has steps and boils in it and grows in size.
Can really throw out. If you make this section (the higher the tide the easier it is) you hit another flat spot and can get in a few cutbacks before the next little zipper section which is more play full and then once pass the end of the reef you into the beach break shorey till you hit the sand.
Its not really a short board wave as its too fat for a standard shorty to plane across so its a good HP mal wave and too heavy for a log.
Anyway I was feeling apprehensive about using the Outlier as I have been surfing it in waist high zippy beaches but no time to go and get another board.
Paddled out and picked off the medium size ones first about head high.
Board went unreal it planed across the flats and really linked up the sections and flew down the line through the middle section holding in as boils and steps appeared in front. Went over a few ledges with the heart in the mouth.
Then I went sat out the back with my old mate who I reckon would be in his early 70s now.
He knows this wave so well having surfed it for 60 years.
The take off on the big ones was a huge slap down peak into the first channel and you needed to be on edge of the whitewash or just inside it.
Got smashed on a couple well over head trying to hang on in the whitewater but the board was too wide in the tail and I just got bucked off before I made it to the first ledge.
So I followed Old Mates lead who was ripping getting all the bombs by belly boarding the tongue and then standing up just before going over the ledge into the second section.
Had 4 or 5 absolute rippers in a row all the way to the shorey.
So conclusions
Pros: amazing speed, super easy cutbacks both roundhouse and pivot, catches wave easily, makes an old bloke thinks he is 40 years younger.
Cons: Wide tail does not like powerful whitewater take offs, wide nose can catch bobbles coming up the face (caught the nose on a screamer just when I thought I had got through the section) super hard to duck dive deep but you don't really need to at this break because of the wide paddle out zone .
Was surfing it with the 8" Joel Tudor fin pushed all the way to the back of the box with 3" upright side bites.
Was thinking off trying it next as a thruster set up with full size side fins and a 7.5 Kai Sallas FCS click in fin.
Still haven't tried the Alex KNost Flex fin yet.
Sorry about the essay but am still buzzing from this surf.
It was a beautiful day with a supposed 2 ft swell running and as a I had to help my daughter move house I was in a hurry expected fun beaches and didn't check anything or even have a look out the back door. I was headed to the other end of the rock that has a beach perfectly aligned for this wind. Just took the 7'0 Outlier in the ute as I needed room for all my daughters stuff later.
Got to the beach and the beaches were closing out but the reef point was a solid 4 to 5 and going off with 2 guys out.
I used to work at this beach for 15 years as a ranger and surfed this reef point when ever it worked. It needs a king tide as its basically a set of 3 fingers of reef aligned along a 45 degree angle with deep channels between each finger of reef.I know this because at low tide I used to take high school kids on Rockpool rambles at low tide and know every inch of this reef.
It has a peaky chip in or white water reform take off then instantly goes fat as it runs over the first channel so you have to fade hard into the white wash tongue as it hits the middle finger of reef.
This section gets heavy and depending on the height of the tide has steps and boils in it and grows in size.
Can really throw out. If you make this section (the higher the tide the easier it is) you hit another flat spot and can get in a few cutbacks before the next little zipper section which is more play full and then once pass the end of the reef you into the beach break shorey till you hit the sand.
Its not really a short board wave as its too fat for a standard shorty to plane across so its a good HP mal wave and too heavy for a log.
Anyway I was feeling apprehensive about using the Outlier as I have been surfing it in waist high zippy beaches but no time to go and get another board.
Paddled out and picked off the medium size ones first about head high.
Board went unreal it planed across the flats and really linked up the sections and flew down the line through the middle section holding in as boils and steps appeared in front. Went over a few ledges with the heart in the mouth.
Then I went sat out the back with my old mate who I reckon would be in his early 70s now.
He knows this wave so well having surfed it for 60 years.
The take off on the big ones was a huge slap down peak into the first channel and you needed to be on edge of the whitewash or just inside it.
Got smashed on a couple well over head trying to hang on in the whitewater but the board was too wide in the tail and I just got bucked off before I made it to the first ledge.
So I followed Old Mates lead who was ripping getting all the bombs by belly boarding the tongue and then standing up just before going over the ledge into the second section.
Had 4 or 5 absolute rippers in a row all the way to the shorey.
So conclusions
Pros: amazing speed, super easy cutbacks both roundhouse and pivot, catches wave easily, makes an old bloke thinks he is 40 years younger.
Cons: Wide tail does not like powerful whitewater take offs, wide nose can catch bobbles coming up the face (caught the nose on a screamer just when I thought I had got through the section) super hard to duck dive deep but you don't really need to at this break because of the wide paddle out zone .
Was surfing it with the 8" Joel Tudor fin pushed all the way to the back of the box with 3" upright side bites.
Was thinking off trying it next as a thruster set up with full size side fins and a 7.5 Kai Sallas FCS click in fin.
Still haven't tried the Alex KNost Flex fin yet.
Sorry about the essay but am still buzzing from this surf.
Cuttlefish
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Good stuff. The board can suprise you in its versatility for sure. Look forward to hearing how other fin configurations go.
