Thanks for reply. Acquired that Vaquero in NY, then? Now I understand. Pilgrim would market those longer vaqueros as, "Streaker" models. Not sure if any tweaks to basic dimensions - it's just that the Vaquero rips in short or long form. I have a 10'2" that does exactly that from knee hi to well overhead. Best all around board I have ever ridden. Welcome to the Andreini Army!! Congrats on the new Sam. You're a lucky man to have married that woman!