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SMUKES
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Posted: Wed Jul 28th, 2010 01:22 am |
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| Oh and just then, you spoke of yourself in the third person and that's AWESOME said Smukes.
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unfrozencaveman
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Posted: Wed Jul 28th, 2010 02:13 am |
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sweet thanks!
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SMUKES
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Posted: Wed Jul 28th, 2010 02:15 am |
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http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/displayPhoto.jsp?boat_id=2241009&boatname=20%27+Pacific+Seacraft+Flicka&photo_revised_date=1279811079000&photo_name=Photo+1&photo=1&url=&back=%2Fboats%2F1990%2FPacific-Seacraft-Flicka-2241009%2FCoastal%2FME%2FUnited-States
No Caveman, Roy spoke in the 3rd person. Still, I want in on the Roytacular Journey... anyway...
This is a 20' Flicka by Pacific Seacraft, designed by Crealock it's the finest bluewater pocket cruiser ever made. This sailboat is built to endure whatever a sailor can encounter, where ever he may encounter it and with comfort and ease underway. You simply cannot find a better boat in it's class and I've wanted one since I was 15 years old. Now let's see... on the one hand we have a goofy assed surfboard and on the ... well, you get the idea. Best of luck Roy, "Value" is in the eye of the beholder.Last edited on Wed Jul 28th, 2010 02:17 am by SMUKES
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SMUKES
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Posted: Wed Jul 28th, 2010 02:26 am |
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http://bluewaterboats.org/ingrid-38/
This would be no.1 on my list but they're a little outta my ballpark.
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gnar gnar
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Posted: Wed Jul 28th, 2010 02:57 pm |
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SMUKES wrote:
http://bluewaterboats.org/ingrid-38/
This would be no.1 on my list but they're a little outta my ballpark.
you bring up an excellent idea.
why the f#%k isn't roy building sailboats?
given the price, perhaps these items he is trying to pass off as surfboards are in fact sail boats , and i just haven't been looking/ reading things right.
Roy,
I was thinking last night. you know how you try to make the spot where the fin meets the board a tight radius? i seem to recall your reasoning something about surface area. maybe i'm wrong. be that as it is...i am sure you agree that surface area causes drag. don't you?
You are all psyched on your "whale bump" technology right (Yes, yes giant clams also use your surfboard fin technology...)?
So a person of your vocabulary sure would see how all those little peaks and valleys increase surface area.
I'm just sayin.
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nedsurf
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Posted: Wed Jul 28th, 2010 06:30 pm |
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Roy Stewart wrote:
Nedsurf it seems that you are not a person who appreciates subtlety in surfing or in humour.
Roy - you are the one that has shown in words and pictures that your idea of a true well designed and built surfcraft is one that you launch and remain in one location on the board throughout the ride, with no need of walking, shifting weight forward or back, etc. I simply put your words into a picture that seems to epitomize your apparent philosophy.
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applekat
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Posted: Wed Jul 28th, 2010 06:37 pm |
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SMUKES wrote: Oh and just then, you spoke of yourself in the third person and that's AWESOME said Smukes.
"...and that's AWESOME said Smukes...." & THIS lil gem "...Roytacular Journey..."
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Surfertom
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Posted: Wed Jul 28th, 2010 07:58 pm |
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Roy Stewart wrote
. . . We do have a monopoly on Roy Stewart surfboards ( this is the case regardless of price ), just as many shapers do with their boards.
There is no outside market force which can change the price, as we are not forced to sell.
It's very straightforward.
Roy, it is "exclusivity", not "monopoly". We can get a surfboard shaped by many different folks. You are not the only one out there for surfboards/wave riding vehicles. You are pretty unique, but not a monopoly.
Aside from that, I am placing a link to another shaper of Blake designs in the Central Coast of California just to share with the others.
http://www.vintagewoodensurfboards.com/index.html
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applebutter
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Posted: Wed Jul 28th, 2010 08:21 pm |
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Roy Stewart wrote: Rich oil sheik WHO surfs not THAT surfs. .. and you didn't leave time for an answer.
The list of extremely wealthy people also includes bankers, rock stars, movie stars politicians and many others, so is not limited to sheiks.
Besides, it is not necessary to have previous surfing experience in order to buy a board.
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so, what you're saying is that you don't build boards for surfers. at least you admit it. which also leads me to believe that your boards don't work well, because...well why would they need to? they won't be surfed so who cares, right?
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Roy Stewart
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Posted: Wed Jul 28th, 2010 08:48 pm |
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applebutter wrote: Roy Stewart wrote: Rich oil sheik WHO surfs not THAT surfs. .. and you didn't leave time for an answer.
The list of extremely wealthy people also includes bankers, rock stars, movie stars politicians and many others, so is not limited to sheiks.
Besides, it is not necessary to have previous surfing experience in order to buy a board.
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so, what you're saying is that you don't build boards for surfers. at least you admit it. which also leads me to believe that your boards don't work well, because...well why would they need to? they won't be surfed so who cares, right?
Those are completely illogical and factually incorrect deductions.
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Roy Stewart
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Posted: Wed Jul 28th, 2010 08:50 pm |
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nedsurf wrote: Roy Stewart wrote:
Nedsurf it seems that you are not a person who appreciates subtlety in surfing or in humour.
Roy - you are the one that has shown in words and pictures that your idea of a true well designed and built surfcraft is one that you launch and remain in one location on the board throughout the ride, with no need of walking, shifting weight forward or back, etc. .
That's a false assumption. Of course shifting of weight occurs, it's just more subtle than the clumping up and down the board which you noseriding fellows do.
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Last edited on Wed Jul 28th, 2010 08:51 pm by Roy Stewart
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Roy Stewart
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Posted: Wed Jul 28th, 2010 08:51 pm |
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Surfertom wrote: Roy Stewart wrote
. . . We do have a monopoly on Roy Stewart surfboards ( this is the case regardless of price ), just as many shapers do with their boards.
There is no outside market force which can change the price, as we are not forced to sell.
It's very straightforward.
Roy, it is "exclusivity", not "monopoly".
It's both, actually.
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Roy Stewart
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Posted: Wed Jul 28th, 2010 10:11 pm |
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gnar gnar wrote:
Roy,
I was thinking last night. you know how you try to make the spot where the fin meets the board a tight radius? i seem to recall your reasoning something about surface area. maybe i'm wrong. be that as it is...i am sure you agree that surface area causes drag. don't you?
You are all psyched on your "whale bump" technology right (Yes, yes giant clams also use your surfboard fin technology...)?
So a person of your vocabulary sure would see how all those little peaks and valleys increase surface area.
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Just for a change and to encourage you to think more deeply Roy isn't going to give you the complete answer today.
Instead he will give you a clue.
Here's the clue, it's shark skin. . . . gosh so much surface area . . . . ..
http://olosurfer-woodensurfboardsatpipeline.blogspot.com/
Last edited on Wed Jul 28th, 2010 10:12 pm by Roy Stewart
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gnar gnar
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Posted: Wed Jul 28th, 2010 11:08 pm |
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Roy Stewart wrote:
gnar gnar wrote:
Roy,
I was thinking last night. you know how you try to make the spot where the fin meets the board a tight radius? i seem to recall your reasoning something about surface area. maybe i'm wrong. be that as it is...i am sure you agree that surface area causes drag. don't you?
You are all psyched on your "whale bump" technology right (Yes, yes giant clams also use your surfboard fin technology...)?
So a person of your vocabulary sure would see how all those little peaks and valleys increase surface area.
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Just for a change and to encourage you to think more deeply Roy isn't going to give you the complete answer today.
Instead he will give you a clue.
Here's the clue, it's shark skin. . . . gosh so much surface area . . . . ..
http://olosurfer-woodensurfboardsatpipeline.blogspot.com/
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nedsurf
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Posted: Thu Jul 29th, 2010 12:25 am |
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Roy Stewart wrote:
nedsurf wrote: Roy Stewart wrote:
Nedsurf it seems that you are not a person who appreciates subtlety in surfing or in humour.
Roy - you are the one that has shown in words and pictures that your idea of a true well designed and built surfcraft is one that you launch and remain in one location on the board throughout the ride, with no need of walking, shifting weight forward or back, etc. .
That's a false assumption. Of course shifting of weight occurs, it's just more subtle than the clumping up and down the board which you noseriding fellows do.
Check the footwork in your own videos and tell me where there are moves that could not be done from a nice restful sitting position, maybe reclining once in a while to shift weight back, lean on one chair arm or the other to weight a rail.
http://olosurfer-woodensurfboardsatpipeline.blogspot.com/2008_02_03_archive.html
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Roy Stewart
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Posted: Thu Jul 29th, 2010 01:23 am |
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Sitting is not ideal as it eliminates the necessary finesse and doesn't allow sufficient range of weight transfer, it also largely prevents weighting and unweighting, and reduces visibilty.
You are either partially blind or deliberately snide if you claim that you can't see that, I'll leave you to make the call regarding which one of those two options apply.
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SMUKES
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Posted: Thu Jul 29th, 2010 01:47 am |
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| Weighting and un-weighting looks positively dreadful and shows your unenlightened approach to waveriding Roy, you and your dreadfully affected speech.
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Surfertom
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Posted: Thu Jul 29th, 2010 03:13 am |
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Roy Stewart wrote: Surfertom wrote: Roy Stewart wrote
. . . We do have a monopoly on Roy Stewart surfboards ( this is the case regardless of price ), just as many shapers do with their boards.
There is no outside market force which can change the price, as we are not forced to sell.
It's very straightforward.
Roy, it is "exclusivity", not "monopoly".
It's both, actually.
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Dude,
Really Roy. Both? So who did you acquire and spit out in the teaming competition for ridiculously long wooden surfboards, with elfin rocker patterns, that left you in such a monopoly-in-your-own-mind state?
Can anyone explain why I get irritated at Roy's conceit and egotism . . .
I do realize Roy you are a proud man about what beautiful boards you make.
I am happy for you that you do enjoy them. But you just aren't the best in the world Dude and you are just a bore when you act up like this (again).
Sigh, I need to go say 12 Hail Marys now.
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Roy Stewart
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Posted: Thu Jul 29th, 2010 03:47 am |
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Surfertom wrote: Roy Stewart wrote: Surfertom wrote: Roy Stewart wrote
. . . We do have a monopoly on Roy Stewart surfboards ( this is the case regardless of price ), just as many shapers do with their boards.
There is no outside market force which can change the price, as we are not forced to sell.
It's very straightforward.
Roy, it is "exclusivity", not "monopoly".
It's both, actually.
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Dude,
Really Roy. Both? So who did you acquire and spit out in the teaming competition for ridiculously long wooden surfboards, with elfin rocker patterns, that left you in such a monopoly-in-your-own-mind state?
Can anyone explain why I get irritated at Roy's conceit and egotism . . .
I do realize Roy you are a proud man about what beautiful boards you make.
I am happy for you that you do enjoy them. But you just aren't the best in the world Dude and you are just a bore when you act up like this (again).
Sigh, I need to go say 12 Hail Marys now.
ST
Firstly every individual shaper ( unless he has sold the rights to his designs ) has a monopoly on production of his shapes.
Secondly I suggest that you try reading what I've actually said rather than what you invent on my behalf. A case in point is the phrase 'Best in the world ' . . . . I have never used that phrase in connection with my boards, and due to ambiguity and lack of clarity about what 'Best in the world' might actually mean I can not comment on whether or not it might apply to my boards unless the context is carefully defined. . . and even then it is problematic.
So on that score you are arguing with yourself, not with me.
Best of luck with your battle.
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