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harboursurfer
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Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 08:56 pm |
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I had the great opportunity to ride alot of nice noseriders from the Hapjacobs-Bing-Tyler-Cooperfish-Lance Carson-Dewey Weber-Hobie-Tudor-Harbour, ect. I did some research on why these boards performed so well. Each board had a unique style to them that made the board function easily to noseriding. I sat down and studied for months to put all the great designs on paper and see if I can take what I learned and make the Ultimate Noserider. With my notes in hand, I went to discuss the designs with some big name great shapers to see what they thought and asked for any input into my findings. I also looked at the early 60's to the modern noserider to examine the evolution of the Noserider today. I found that the boards of yesterday had very similar outlines such as the rails and rocker design but the concave were quite different. This research took over a year to formulate my quest for the perfect noserider longboard. I needed to find a shaper who had years of experience in building custom boards and also someone who offered CNC technology to make some percise shapes of what I needed. In conducting my search, I spoke to various great shapers who all recommended Wayne Okamoto of Oakfoils surfboards for his percise shaping abilities and state of the art CNC machine. Not to mention he has shapped numerous boards for all the big names in surfboards.
I sat down with Wayne for several days and he gave me an education on all twenty of my findings on what makes a good longboard noserider. He displayed a 3D layout design on why a noserider functions better on noserides and less in making critical turns like a hi-performance longboard. Wayne knows what makes a good noserider since he has designed and shapped noseriders for the big names in surfboards using his awesome CNC 3D shapping machine. We finally came up with a design taking the very best of over 20 different great noserider longboards. The board was designed and made to perfection and once the board was done, several well known shapers of the business came to check out the board. I was trilled that a great noserider/shaper said he would love to own the board in his quiver!
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harboursurfer
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Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 08:59 pm |
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The Oakfoils Noserider has a hi-density foam stringer using volan glassing.
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harboursurfer
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Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 09:07 pm |
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This board has a translucent blue resin finish make the color turn darker in the sun.
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harboursurfer
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Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 09:11 pm |
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The tail block is made of Hi-density foam, the resin makes it translucent from blue to green!
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harboursurfer
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Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 09:12 pm |
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The board is glassed so well, the colors really pop!
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harboursurfer
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Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 09:14 pm |
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Great colors and design. Wayne has created a masterpiece!
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harboursurfer
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Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 09:31 pm |
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The final result of this board was that it is designed to catch alot of waves, very stable on the nose and be able to turn very well using a modern concave nose. Most of my homework I did was also done by several other pro-noserider champions and Wayne had designed their boards too and knew exactly what I found in my research and added a few more findings that pro-noserider have mentioned in finding the ultimate board. The board shape was 3D scanned and wayne has the templete on digital file.
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hangtensurfing
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Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 09:35 pm |
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Wow!!! That is one nice board bro. I imagine that the board will function very well. Since you mention you had a digital file of the board, can you share the design with me? I would love to order one. I am always looking for a magic noserider and sounds like you did your homework to get there. I'm Stoked that a shaper took time to get you really what you want. I tired to get a custom DT board but the sales person didn't have any idea what I was talking about and shaper wasn't available. The last few boards were off the rack boards, now its time to seek some custom boards. I know what I want.
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miles
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Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 10:01 pm |
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| Pretty board. How about a rocker shot? Concave shot?
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twizzly
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Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 10:26 pm |
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Wayne is just an amazing guy to work with. Congrats on an outstanding board. The Oak Foils Bryd Pod he made for me is one of my favorite boards I've ever ridden and the high perf longboard he's making for me is going to be SICK!
Give us a detailed review on riding characteristics of this board, man! The board looks amazing!
Where do you plan to ride it? What size? Going leashless?
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Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 10:55 pm |
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| What are the final dimensions you decided on? Are the dimensions a result of your homework or did you leave that up to Wayne based on your height & weight?
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dan
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Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 11:00 pm |
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Congrats on your new board! That thing is nice, pretty cool how the yellow foam looks green under the blue tint. I was at the factory on Sat and saw your board. Oak had just pick it up from the factory. You don't mess around! Have you had a chance to ride the board?
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SoCalSoulSurfer
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Posted: Tue May 6th, 2008 12:59 am |
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The blue tint with the yellow HD foam really sets that board off. I've heard nothing but great things about Wayne and Oak Foils. The boards I've seen people surfing locally are absolutely beautiful. I've seen everything from Oak Foils waveskates, fishes, high performance surfboards, to big logs at El Porto. I always talk to the board owners in the parking lot and they always tell me the boards seem to have 'magic' to their shapes. I will be contacting him in the very near future about building me a custom once I get some funds together.
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Posted: Tue May 6th, 2008 01:25 am |
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And THAT, my friends, is why we should support our local shapers over the Chinese made production boards.
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Posted: Tue May 6th, 2008 02:16 am |
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That is outstanding. I'd love to hear more about your findings--I'm currently working on a similar project. How much are you willing to share?
Beautiful board--congrats! Now what kind of fin is going in there? And how far from the tail?
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harboursurfer
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Posted: Tue May 6th, 2008 03:28 am |
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Here is the rocker shot. The dimensions were based on my homework and measuring numerous boards. The better noserider had a similar rocker profile. Wayne fine tuned the rocker based on which board I really like. Obvioulsy, it seems the rocker I picked was a wave catching magnet with super paddle abilities.
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harboursurfer
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Posted: Tue May 6th, 2008 03:30 am |
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Trucker,
I am willing to share my findings. I chose to go with a fin box to see which fin would work the best since the boards I had ridden had different styles of fins. I have over 10 different noserider fins to try out. First fin to go into the board will be the Slick. I will start with the fin all the way back to the tail and document my findings for each fin. I will be riding this board from Bolsa to San O, to Mailbu to Rincon. I am waiting on the waves to clean up in Huntington Beach this week for the first ride.
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Posted: Tue May 6th, 2008 03:35 am |
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Thanks for the rocker shot. Looking forward to hear your ride review. I like the colored foam under the tint, too, with the clear deck so you get to see two different color versions of the same foam. Like on a lot of the Lance Carson PowerGlides.
Where was it glassed?
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Posted: Tue May 6th, 2008 03:36 am |
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harboursurfer wrote: Trucker,
I am willing to share my findings. I chose to go with a fin box to see which fin would work the best since the boards I had ridden had different styles of fins. I have over 10 different noserider fins to try out. First fin to go into the board will be the Slick. I will start with the fin all the way back to the tail and document my findings for each fin.
Keep us updated. I'm a huge fan of Oak's work. I'm really curious to hear how the board rides with a Heritage 10" or a Farberow Flex.
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Posted: Tue May 6th, 2008 03:36 am |
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That is one good looking board from the shape, rocker, and foils, to the tint and gloss job. Please share with us after a few sessions on how your Oak Noserider performs.
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harboursurfer
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Posted: Tue May 6th, 2008 03:41 am |
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The board had alot of detail from the pin lines to the custom stringer. Wayne spent alot of time custom designing the blank and having the blank made took forever since they had to modify the blank using shims. So many hours were devoted to this board from my research all they way to the final product. I wouldn't of done it without Wayne's expertise since it took someone with alot of patience.
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Posted: Tue May 6th, 2008 04:04 am |
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Harboursurfer,
What are the dims on that bad boy?
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Smokey
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Posted: Tue May 6th, 2008 12:03 pm |
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| Can we get a concave shot?
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harboursurfer
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Posted: Tue May 6th, 2008 03:24 pm |
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With the translucent blue resin tint, its hard to get a picture of the concave. I will have to take some more pictures this weekend without the sun. Try to check this out. It is a modern concave, not too deep of a scoop and the nose narrows slightly. The blank was custom designed by Wayne and it took along time for the blank to be made to perfection due to the custom stringer using Hi-Density foam and Ceadar wood-black glue. Wayne knew exactly how much dept to put in the nose concave and narrowing the nose slightly to really crank the board around to line up with the wave! Wayne has spent alot of time building some of the best noseriders on the market for the Big Name brands.
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dan
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Posted: Tue May 6th, 2008 04:07 pm |
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I emailed Oak last night about this shape and here is some info on this shape.
Wow, a few different guys sent me this link. Oh yes, that shape had some extra love put into it. The shape in general is designed for traditional performance surfing. This is a different interpretation of a modern traditional noserider. As most know “noserider models” in general are great boards for machine like reeling perfect point breaks, but once in a beach break type condition the boards aren’t so magical. I like to think of the traditional “noserider” shape as a model specific design, or a “one trick pony”.
This shape is designed to be an all around nose rider with a mild traditional typed concaved nose with out the hard edge around the periphery of the concave that is blended, the foil toward the nose tip is to almost zeroed out, while the tail is relatively beefy in comparison to most noserider shapes partly due to the rider physical size.
One of the main reason to have the blank mold shimmed is due to the bottom foil and rocker. One of the main design aspects of great noseriders of the past is an area that is approx ¼-1/3 of the rear portion of the bottom. The subtle roll with full bottom contours blending to the rail line with a mild tail kick requires that the blank be thicker to accommodate this critical design feature. This allows the laminar water flow to roll from the bottom and direct the water up towards the rail and onto the deck as the water flow is transitioned towards the tail to release off the back of the board the kick on the deck side creates creates lift towards the nose and functions as a rear spoiler on a race vehicle and creates down force and counter balances the weight of the rider on the nose. Most modern blanks aren’t thick enough to accommodate this contour.
Thanks to Blair Foam they were willing to shim the blank mold to allow this critical design feature. The basic dimensions are 10’1” x 23 ½” x 3 5/16”. The guys at Steve Mangiagli’s factory did the glass and polish. Hope this helps.
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log donkey
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Posted: Tue May 6th, 2008 04:16 pm |
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dan wrote: 10’1” x 23 ½” x 3 5/16”.
well, at least we finally got some dims from someone
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SoCalSoulSurfer
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Posted: Wed May 7th, 2008 05:45 pm |
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The more I look at these pictures, the more attention to details I see in this board. What was the waiting time for the board?
I'm very tempted to contact Oak Foils about a custom noserider. I like the 422, Riddler, and Is Is shapes also. Does he have his own similar shape?
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harboursurfer
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Posted: Mon Jun 2nd, 2008 10:36 pm |
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I been taking out the Oakfoil noserider several times and dialing in which fin works well with the board. I tired several fins and it seems the "The Slick" is a great fin.
Boy what can I say, this board is so fun to ride and getting up on the nose is solid! The first few waves I got I got a trim to hang five no problem, this board flowed very easy and was like riding a cadillac of noseriders. Once I dialed in on the right fin, the hangten was no sweat and the quick bottom turn and into a nice trim to put the little toes on the nose. This board really catches waves with easy and it glides better than any board I own, so smooooth. I have to give this board a double tumbs up! It has everything one would expect in a custom board, from easy paddle to fast tight turns to the stable glide to get up on the nose.
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Posted: Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 03:10 am |
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harboursurfer wrote: It has everything one would expect in a custom board, from easy paddle to fast tight turns to the stable glide to get up on the nose.
I'm glad you followed up here.
I had a great session on the "Green Machine" 9' UFO high performance this AM. The Stretch Template Future Quad set is a really nice setup for this board.
In fact, I came to work so freakin' stoked that I couldn't help but write Wayne a quick note... here's a tidbit:
"I must say, the rocker on is just absolutely perfect..."
"It paddles so damn well and the angled takeoffs set you up for so much power down the line"
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Posted: Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 03:34 am |
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Twizzly,
Are you using the 4.00 rear trailers on it??
Thanks!!
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harboursurfer
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Posted: Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 05:32 am |
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Wayne makes some awesome boards! I am taking out my 9.0 HP Longboard tomorrow morning. That board loves to shread the lips off the waves. What fin setup are you using on yours? PM for the 2 plus 1 setup if you change from a quad.
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dan
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Posted: Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 04:38 pm |
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yeah, but didnt he rip off the name ufo? lol..
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Barnyard01
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Posted: Wed Jun 4th, 2008 06:38 am |
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| Lets see some pictures of the board in action.
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