Noll slot bottom questions

Discussion in 'Surfing' started by McQuad, Apr 10, 2018.

  1. miscreant

    miscreant Well-Known Member

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    This reminded me of this thread:

    http://jamboards.com/threads/first-impressions-on-the-phillips-piglet.3812/page-5
     
  2. Veterano

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    IMO, Greg Noll boards were the garbage truck w/ four flats of that era.
     
  3. mgarbutt

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    Bing did a version in '65 called the Katamacave, I have a 10' Slot Bottom Hanging in my house, beast of a board. Compare that with some of the other boards of the era & its probably not the best rider.
     

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  4. miscreant

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    Hilbers brought one to a luau once. The thing had this almost rhombus type fin. The board had softball shaped rails. It must have been made from either concrete or some metal it was SO heavy. I wasn’t curious enough about its ride to try to carry it down the trail that year.

    My late fifties Velzy Jacobs balsa I used to have rode in a way that didn’t inspire me. Yet my tank of a Hansen does inspire me.

    One can’t deny Noll’s capacity to market his product though.
     
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  5. Knots

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    I know 3 guys with Noll slot bottoms. None surf them. Sorry, no help.
    George Gerlach once told me he sold hundreds of Nolls in the middle 1960s. They couldn't sell them out west so they shipped them east. $$$$!
    The story on the Da Cat model is humorous in its own right. See Yater, the Spoon, Dora being Dora... The story is out there if you hunt for it. :)
    Aloha
     
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  6. Gill

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    Great topic and interesting threade. I would be interested in hearing some more about how they original rode as well. I personally really enjoy riding old boards from the 60's and I don't think they are nessesarly hard to turn, but just completely different style.

    I was thinking of buying a remake of Nolls Da Cat board by Matador out here in NJ- called the El Gato. Pretty cool looking board, a few of them for sale from time to time for a decent price, you can see the slot bottom, also has the step deck:

    https://www.brightonbeachsurfshop.com/store/p269/9'8_Matador_El_Gato_DEMO.html

    https://www.brightonbeachsurfshop.com/store/p10/El_Gato__9'8"__(_'68_Pin_Tail)___SOLD.html

    Never bought the board, mostly cause it's more of a novelty shape and that's a lot to spend on novelty... like someone else eluded to- there's a reason they are being shaped anymore...

    In my experience, I have always noticed that boards with bottom features like channels or slots tend to add a little lift on the tail. But usually they (newer boards) also have hard down rails, adding even more... not really what you would want on a nose rider, you would want the water to flow over the rails and kinda bury the tail in the water... so I think if anything the slots could help Channel water thru turns and maybe help with a little drive, but not nose riding... just my thoughts- but I'm not like a shaper or anything so they are just observations
     
  7. Tenfooter

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    To answer to some Gods in here: no, I don't have that much time riding vintage. Just enough to realize that a lot of old boards are a piece of shit when you compare to the nowaday boards. There's zero doubt in my mind. Is not fair to compare them. Two different animals. Is like comparing a model T and a 911 GTR. Both will finish the race. But with huge difference in performance.
    I have a Riddle shaped by Jim back in the days. Amazing craft. Nicely done. But has nothing to do to when you ride it side by side to a newer board shaped by him.
    I know you have your ego hurt, but most old heavy boards, with round rails, glassed fin,tons of volume, IMHO, they suck.
     
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  8. shadydave

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    37E17119-035F-4BAF-BF48-F15AD1FC2A4D.jpeg 6FB355C0-A9EF-4EE8-8067-1ABEC18B8A70.jpeg TF, perhaps you have been riding the wrong era of vintage boards. I would have no issue surfing my 1967/68 boards 100% of the time and based on the waves I surf would not feel like I was handicapping myself. Round rails I think not.
     
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  9. SeniorGrom

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    No doubt a lot has been learned by shapers since the beginning of foam. Todays boards are way more user friendly with improved performance in general. The ‘golden age’ during the last two years of longboarding though there were many spectacular refined shapes. Focusing on how to ride them best gives me a lot of enjoyment. I have another one that is pretty tough to ride but keep trying.
     
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  10. Tenfooter

    Tenfooter Active Member

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    Dave, that is a sick board!!! Nice shape.
    I remember another good old vintage I ride every now and then, a CON, that has pinched rails, turns, and yes, is a nice board.
    Even I have a weber, late 60's , not a performer, that has a nice outline, and rides like a coop.

    I should rephrase it: the fat round ones, are a piece of shit. My bad.
     
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