So true. All the builders you mentioned are treasures and should be supported. People here mocked my "30 year" rule. I will only get a board from a builder that has 30 or more (hopefully way more) years experience in the trade. I want someone who has shaped through different design evolution, comes from a surf heritage background (example; San Diego, Santa Barbara, etc.) and has spent time in a professional work environment, learning from masters of the trade. Why would anyone want anything else?