In the Stoker V Machine thread the subject of using Amtrak came up for the best bang for the buck. Back during the 80's i used Amtrak quite a bit when I was prominent in sending sailboards to the SF Bay and Columbia River Gorge. I found it more economical to put them on the train where customers could pick their orders up at Oakland Station, Portland, or Seattle depending upon which was most convenient for them. I also sent some surfboards for the Vancouver guys to p/u in Seattle, as this is as far north as Amtrak would send them w/o going over the border. All in all, things worked pretty well back then, so I decided to revisit this option since, even with my 45% volume shipping discount using Fed Ex, their recent price hikes have prompted me to look elsewhere. I operate out of SBA (Santa Barbara) and was told that I could send any surfboard, carefully packed, up to a total of 120" (10 ft.) to any East Coast station for $105. I can insure them for $1/$100 up to $2K. Once the surfboard arrives, the station calls the recipient and you have 48 hrs. to pick up then they charge $10/day storage. The first two board orders I've rec'd thru guys that are members here, went off w/o a hitch. A 7'6" went to a member in Philly but he told me to send it to wilmington D.E. as it is closer to his home. The good news was SBA charged $85 not the $105 the toll free Amtrak had quoted. The people in SB were super friendly and the manager told me his uncle "thru a marriage, is Paul Strauch". I'm including a good quality 5mm board bag at my cost for these orders and after packing the boards in a bubble wrap board bag of it's own with extra strips along nose, tail, & rails, I slip it into the board bag and she's ready to go. I just got confirmation the first one arrived in 5 days - not a scratch on it. He liked the board bag too. Next up will be a V8 heading to San Jose station ($65) and three balsa boards to Miami. I snet a "Volan Special" to an Aussie customer visiting his brother in Portland OR for $85. That went smoothly too. So I'm sharing this info for everyone, yes this is my business and this stuff is business related, but it is also helpful to anyone trying to get a surfboard safely from coast to coast or elsewhere. It's working for me, so I'm spreading the word. From SBA: $65 South Santa Ana, Oceanside, San Diego. (I was told they don't take boards over 7 ft. south of L.A. - but I will have to confirm whether that is true or not). $65 San Jose, Oakland, CA. $85 Portland, Seattle, San Antonio TX. $105 East Coast: i.e. Manhattan, Newark (Penn stations) Providence RI, Philadelphia, Wilmington DE (& NC), Miami, pretty sure they can get boards to Jamaica NY for the Long Island/Montauk set. Many other cities near you. If you want to get a quote, try your local station or call Amtrak Express Shipping for General Info: 1-800-872-7245. .....sure is a lot easier than building board boxes, bomb proofing them only to have some idiot from Fed Ex throwing them because he didn't get any last night. Share the knowledge! Share the Stoke! Peace!