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30 January 2010

Dear Longboard.Net Surfing Forum,

I just visited my good friend, who is a father of four in San Diego. I noticed how well-behaved his kids were, and what a happy family he and his wife had there. Indeed, it is a testimony to his wonderful wife, his great example, and the two working together to effectively raise a family in crazy, insane times.

Reflecting on this, and piecing together a series of thoughts from the last few months, I would like to offer my Cooperfish Nose Devil to a father who would like to teach his son and/or daughter surfing - or join their child in the line-up on an absolutely fantastic surfboard.

I could sell this board for (a few) hundreds of dollars, but the joy of giving it to a family for their use would be much better it seems to me.

Here's the pitch:

1. I am offering this Cooperfish, shaped by Gene, to a deserving father and son/daughter team. It is located in San Diego, and I can give you access to it no problem. (I am located in New Jersey, but we can work logistics). I will not pay for shipping, but I will kindly ask my neighbor to drop the board wherever you wish if you live far from SD. (If you cannot afford shipping, but you have a good story, I will see what I can figure out).

2. Post your situation (with pics, or however you feel comfortable), or you can email me personally if you do not wish to post information publicly, which I completely understand. Use this address: sastone@princeton.edu (Subj: NOSEDEVIL). Tell me your story, and I will choose a 'winner'.

3. You can nominate a friend whom you think would be stoked to get their child, and themselves, on one of Gene's boards.

4. Bottom Line, I will make a decision no later than the morning of 11 FEB 2010 for the giveaway (so we can move on to the entertaining Cooperfish auction!).

5. If you are a mom who is fired up, surfing with your kid, please feel free to participate, and send me your info/story.

6. Lastly, if you are a father-to-be,...
As much a part of surfing as anything else that gets discussed here. So let's hear what you have to say. As for me I'll start with a quote:

"24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence?"
Many of you know the VW van family so I want to ask what are the ones to buy, what to avoid. What are the common pitfalls of these vehicles? I have a very limited budget so while I welcome comments on newer Eurovans they are way out of my price range unless you recommend a good one for less than $5-6k. I would like a pop-up, basically want to know if I can buy a reliable (very reliable!) van for that price range. Would prefer an automatic because of freeway driving, but don't know if that is asking for trouble. If I'm askng for something that isn't realistic then tell me that also (not that anyone here would ever try to hurt my feelings).

Also will consider alternatives, which some of you have with american vans with camper tops. Thanks.
you can be certain of that.
I worked at Clyde Beatty's for a stretch. It was there that I realized how upside down , custom surfboard building is.

I would guess most people that ride custom surfboards have little idea about what cost, and effort go into every step of the board.

I am going to try to (albeit roughly) describe the process here:


every shaper has a room that the board is shaped in. that room cost rent, that room requires electricity, that room has tools that cost money to purchase and to maintain. in most cases that room cost gas money to get to.

the blank. the shaper drives to pick the blanks up. that is time and gas.

now think about what a master shaper of custom surfboards should earn as an hourly rate. what a consumer would spend out of pocket for that hour does not reflect what the shaper puts in their pocket. the shaper usually pays the overhead i just mentioned.

this is just a quick sketch of the cost of "shaping a board".

now the glassing.

the glass shop cost rent, requires electricity, has materials that constantly need replenishing and is very toxic.

after a surfboard is shaped it goes through many stages during its "glassing" process. as I am talking about custom surfboards, there is a certain level of quality that is adhered to. there is a direct relationship between (the higher the level of quality) and (the longer the man hours, and typically more materials).

the glassing process is roughly: laminating one side, laminating the other, hot coating, finning, sanding, glossing, sanding, polishing.

each process requires time,tools, and materials. in most cases , there are different artisans, or workers, performing each step. those employees should have health care given the toxicity of the environment.

a $2000 board doesn't yield much for the pocket of the person whose name is on it.
I'm starting to think about another board and wanted to get some of your ideas/opinions.

Let's take your standard 9-6 x 23 wide x 3-1/4 thick board.
What would going wider and thinner do? Say 23-1/2 wide x 3 or 3-1/8 thick

Do wider boards plane better?

Pros and cons
I'd have never guessed that it would take all day to post one board on Ebay. And i learned that EbayUK doesn't post surfboards. Don't they know about maddog?


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The water Temp was 49 degrees here in St Augustine this am,it jumped up a couple degrees during the day,but it is supposed to be like 19 degrees here this weekend so it will definately go sub 50 again ,it has been flat ,but we are supposed to get something happening here starting Saturday.I have only seen below 50 1 other time in 12 years here.

I would have not benn able to control myself !!!!!!!!!
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