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I worked at Clyde Beatty's for a stretch. It was there that I realized how upside down , custom surfboard building is.

I would guess most people that ride custom surfboards have little idea about what cost, and effort go into every step of the board.

I am going to try to (albeit roughly) describe the process here:


every shaper has a room that the board is shaped in. that room cost rent, that room requires electricity, that room has tools that cost money to purchase and to maintain. in most cases that room cost gas money to get to.

the blank. the shaper drives to pick the blanks up. that is time and gas.

now think about what a master shaper of custom surfboards should earn as an hourly rate. what a consumer would spend out of pocket for that hour does not reflect what the shaper puts in their pocket. the shaper usually pays the overhead i just mentioned.

this is just a quick sketch of the cost of "shaping a board".

now the glassing.

the glass shop cost rent, requires electricity, has materials that constantly need replenishing and is very toxic.

after a surfboard is shaped it goes through many stages during its "glassing" process. as I am talking about custom surfboards, there is a certain level of quality that is adhered to. there is a direct relationship between (the higher the level of quality) and (the longer the man hours, and typically more materials).

the glassing process is roughly: laminating one side, laminating the other, hot coating, finning, sanding, glossing, sanding, polishing.

each process requires time,tools, and materials. in most cases , there are different artisans, or workers, performing each step. those employees should have health care given the toxicity of the environment.

a $2000 board doesn't yield much for the pocket of the person whose name is on it.
I'm starting to think about another board and wanted to get some of your ideas/opinions.

Let's take your standard 9-6 x 23 wide x 3-1/4 thick board.
What would going wider and thinner do? Say 23-1/2 wide x 3 or 3-1/8 thick

Do wider boards plane better?

Pros and cons
I'd have never guessed that it would take all day to post one board on Ebay. And i learned that EbayUK doesn't post surfboards. Don't they know about maddog?


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The water Temp was 49 degrees here in St Augustine this am,it jumped up a couple degrees during the day,but it is supposed to be like 19 degrees here this weekend so it will definately go sub 50 again ,it has been flat ,but we are supposed to get something happening here starting Saturday.I have only seen below 50 1 other time in 12 years here.

I would have not benn able to control myself !!!!!!!!!
Looks good:

As of today the forecast is Waist to Chest with NW winds (offshore).

Following unfrozencavemans' lead...

I wish you all have a wonderful Christmas & hope that you're surrounded by your loved ones this holiday season. May you all enjoy this new year in good health, surrounded by happiness, & are blessed with good family & friends.


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So my girlfriend of two months asked to see the calender I received in the mail . "Sure thing" ! She looks at january ,closes it and slides it across the table and say's, "thats disgusting , that's pornographic and I can't believe you bought that. " Yup I sure did , what you dont like Cooperfish surfboards"? I laughed :p The calender stays!!!
I have a question. What does an insanely bladed rail on a hull do for you. I have a Liddle, pretty knifey rail. I have used an Andreini, piched rail but not as thin as my Liddle, and then on the Point Concepts blog he shows the rail of a hull he shaped. It is insanely thin! Almost to the point of being Alaya thin. Explain why one would want such an incredibly thin rail. Drawbacks?